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NOTES FROM COMMUNITY MEETING 4/10/18


Here are the notes from the meeting held on Thursday 4 October.  Next meeting will be in February 2019.  Watch for date and time.  Over 100 people attended but where was everyone else!!  Any comments??  Feed them back so we can pass to the council!!


Waterlooville Town Community/Business Meeting
Thursday 4th October 2018 @ 7PM @ Waterlooville Baptist Church
Apologies: Cllr N. Baines; Cllr P. Baines; Cllr M Sceal
Councillors present: Cllr Sarah Milne, Cllr Gary Hughes, Cllr Tim Pike, Cllr Paul Buckley,       Cllr Ann Briggs, Cllr P Wade
Community Meeting Leader: Mrs J Buckley (Jackie)
1: Introduction -
Mrs Buckley welcomed both local business and private attendees to the meeting which was supported in a large number. She outlined the agenda, and introduced Councillors present. There were also invitations available to any businesses who had yet to receive one to the upcoming Lord Mayors Business Meeting. Jackie then addressed rumours brought to her attention since the last meeting –
·         Waitrose closing – unfounded
·         New Look closing – closure 10th October due to major chain going into administration.  The Works moving in
·         Businesses moving into empty Robert Dyas unit -  Holland & Barratt half the shop
·         Iceland moving/closing – unfounded

2:  Anti-social behaviour – Some anti-social behaviour has been reported by the town centre clock and surrounding seating. HBC has decided to keep the benches in situ and monitor behaviour.
When asked why CCTV had not been re-instated, Cllr Pike informed the meeting that the Police would not help with funding and HCC could not afford to reinstate without extra financial support. It was agreed that CCTV should be a necessity in town centres, and other deterrents explored, (reference to Cornwall who play classical music on loudspeakers in problem areas which seems to deter issues).

3: Disabled access to shops and local transport – Issues brought to Cllr Pike’s attention included concerns that local shop doorways were too narrow, and movement within some stores difficult if using wheelchairs or mobility scooters. Cllr Pike requested that any concerns be sent directly to the Access Officer of HBC, who will review and respond.
The refurbished Wellington Pub is currently inaccessible to wheelchair users due to the step access (no ramp).
Cllr’s were reminded that The Equality Act 2010 states that businesses have a duty to ensure that the disabled are treated equally at all levels including access to buildings.

4: Jubilee Park –Cllr Seale has compiled a list of facilities and equipment in the park and would welcome some thoughts on how the park can be better used and improved. Please send any comments etc., directly to Cllr Seale.

5: WACA Cafe – The cafe was thought to have been closed, but will remain open for the next three months whilst the Trustees await planning permission for the proposed refurbishment which will take some weeks. It is then hoped that the cafe can be reopened with a new provider in place.

6: Maurepas Way – Issues around the safety of pedestrians, particularly those with mobility, sight or hearing impairments, to be able to use the current crossing safely, were discussed. There have been a number of accidents, which the Police have been involved with, and concerns were raised that the safety of the crossing needs to be reviewed. Also a request made to have the ramp access to the pedestrian subway reinstated. Cllr Buckley explained that any issues to do with roads/crossings should be raised with HCC customer helpline or via Hantsweb, where they will be attended to promptly. Cllr Briggs said she would investigate.

7: Local Business concerns – The manager of the Vine Medical Group, which is based over 4 sites, told members that their staff gratis parking within the Forest End Fire Station has been stopped by HBC. The small number of parking spaces at the Forest End site has always been an issue, and staff did not want to take up valuable space. Members were asked if they were aware of any other spaces staff could use close by, and a suggestion that they could explore using the redundant garage site, approximately 50 yards away, within the Forest End residential area was appreciated.
Members also cited high business rates alongside absentee landlords raising rents to exorbitant levels, as being prime factors for businesses leaving the town. Cllr Pike said that HBC is not able to offset rates, the money sits in local enterprise for other things. HBC are actively contacting landlords to begin dialogue around various concerns including smartening up shop fronts of vacant premises.

Cllr Pike Q&A’s –
Local Plan ~ Cllr Pike explained that the new proposed Local Plan will set out policies until 2036 as the planning authority in the Borough. Final draft will be published in January 2019. The plan includes Housing/transport/open spaces/playgrounds and built leisure facilities.
He reminded members that rates for the new West of Waterlooville housing development, went directly to Winchester but the residential nature of the development meant there was a drain on local HBC facilities.
HBC have plans to invest more in re-generation, but they only own 2 car parks in Waterlooville, nothing else, so improvement difficult. 

Bus services - Stagecoach bus service wants to generate more business and they recognise there are access issues for users as not all buses have drop ramp options. Buses are not currently accessible to users of power chairs/scooters. Stagecoach are bringing in 15 new buses to meet regulations as they need to be fully compliant by 2020. There have also been some improvements with lay-by services recently. HCC have recently placed a bid for a new Waterlooville to Havant fast track service to run alongside the current No 39. Bus services from Waterlooville to QA Hospital are also being reviewed to give users direct access into the hospital campus, as opposed to the current main road bus stops which involve a long walk to the hospital.

Lack of NHS dentists in the area - Provision of dentists is done by National Commissioning, and healthcare access is part of the new Local Plan.

Extra facilities in Leisure Centres - Horizon Trust have a business plan but their views are opposed to those of HBC. Issues are currently under discussion. There is no space around either centre for all weather pitches, which is a stumbling block to improved facilities. But indoor facilities for indoor football, raquet sports etc should be investigated.

McDonalds site/crossing - The area is still designated for leisure and HBC are hopeful of positive outcomes after discussions with various leisure organisations. There will also be a new pedestrian crossing to the McDonalds.

Jubilee Park floodlights - members discussed the possibility of floodlights but it was recognised they may be an issue for local residences.

Alternate uses for empty shops - HBC have discussed the issue, but there is no cash or current policy (also problematic due to absentee landlords non co-operation) for compulsory purchase. There is money available to reinstate vinyl windows decorations as have been used in the past, but require permission from landlords. Compulsory purchase not impossible in future but imaginative ideas needed to make it work. If a good business case was put forward, the option could be explored. Members discussed re-generation ideas seen elsewhere which involved shops refurbished into dwellings, creating a retail/residential mix. Members recognised parking was a continuing issue with any proposal. Members were told there was no time limit on how long a shop could remain empty before being subject to any compulsory purchase. 
It was asked if something could be done about the neglected look of the town.  Such as the grass growing through the paving slabs, and window decorations should be pursued.  Cllr Pike said local ward councillors should be approached

Cycling - Cycle Waterlooville introduced themselves and stated they were working with HBC to create/improve local cycle ways and other off-road routes, alongside promoting cycling with schools and the local community.
Members discussed issues around motorbikers using the cycle paths, causing anti social behaviour and noise issues for residents. The majority of members do not want cyclists using the pedestrian precinct areas, and issues around hazardous mobility scooter use were raised.
It was noted that many local roads remain unadopted, which cause access issues across the Borough.

Availability of monies generated from new development -  Cllr Pike informed members that paperwork relating to the amounts and allocation of developers money through the West of Waterlooville  properties, is available for the public to see at HBC Plaza.
West of Waterlooville Forum is made up by local Parish Councils. Issues like trigger points of housing –v- local infrastructure are discussed.
Members reminded Cllr Pike that the West of Waterlooville  development will ultimately have schools, a pub, retail units and a community centre. All of which will have a major impact on the town centre.

Wellington Way Development update – HHC have informed the developer that their current application will not be supported with the proposed number of parking spaces. The developer has agreed to reconsider/revise the application, and a new application will be submitted in due course to HBC. The revised plan will go out to further public consultation. Members asked that the next consultation process be ‘meaningful’, in that clear modelling for the public to view/comment on, is provided and publicity given to the revised process. Cllr Pike recognised that transparent consultation is important to the community. He also agreed that a potential 9 storey development could be permitted if HBC felt it was justified.

Local issues -  Cllr Pike reminded members that they could raise any local issues with their Ward Councillors, whose details can be found on the HBC website or via the Customer helpline. 

Events Team Update -
Monthly Cinema 25/10/18 at St Georges Hall. This month the film is ‘On Chesil Beach’
17th November - The 2018 Christmas events will include music, town centre lights switch on, and Stage events.
In December there will be a Christmas Grotto in the Library where all children will be able to experience the magic of Christmas, with a nominal charge of £2 (a team of Santa’s and Elves are visiting to help things along!)
May 2019 will see the Party in the Precinct Carnival.

A.O.B. -
A roving microphone would have been useful to aid Q&A sessions.  Baptist Church have one available
Members thank the Events Team for a wonderful Fete in August.
Members suggested the next meeting could be February/March 2019, but it was also thought an earlier meeting should take place based on the progress of the Wellington Way development application.
Meeting closed 9pm.

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